Ultra Engine noob feedback thread

[Yue]

 

The tools to make games for a single inexperienced person are all over the place, click and drag. I understand Josh's business model, this implies performance and a clear focus is to give these tools to users who will have the potential in money to buy assets from third parties, or pay for a development team where the human has the talent. 

At this point, a technology is focused on the power of volatility, and this is how I perceive Ultra Engine. The rest will grow little by little.

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[Alienhead]

Do you plan on adding a gizmo for the Placement function? I'm finding it hard to find objects I select in the node tree  since no gizmo appears when selected. Also thumb nails for mats? Large directories of materials are hard to differentiate between whats what. Also, maybe remove the restriction on viewport sizing? Since Radeons cannot go single viewport,  it would be helpful to be able to make the active viewport larger ( like leadwerks does, theres no restriction ). I couldnt find a way to turn off grid snapping. Thumbs on gltf model files?

This model crashes the editor when I attempt to view it in the Asset Browser, it loads fine if I drag and drop it to the viewport.

 

bank.zip

[Josh]

56 minutes ago, Alienhead said:

Do you plan on adding a gizmo for the Placement function? I'm finding it hard to find objects I select in the node tree  since no gizmo appears when selected. Also thumb nails for mats? Large directories of materials are hard to differentiate between whats what. Also, maybe remove the restriction on viewport sizing? Since Radeons cannot go single viewport,  it would be helpful to be able to may the active viewport larger ( like leadwerks does, theres no restriction ).

When objects are selected an orange outline around their edges appears. This will appear on top of other objects in the foreground and it should be highly visible.

Materials should have thumbnails appear automatically.

Viewports can be resized by clicking and dragging the divider area in between the viewports.

[Josh]

1 hour ago, Alienhead said:

This model crashes the editor when I attempt to view it in the Asset Browser, it loads fine if I drag and drop it to the viewport.

bank.zip 948.48 kB · 0 downloads

The zip file does not include the required "bank0.bin" file.

[Alienhead]

I guess Radeon drivers are further out of whack then I originally thought then, none of which you explained above is working on my install.

 

 

[Josh]

[Alienhead]

Wow. Not getting that. But thanks for looking.

[reepblue]

On the subject of a widget, I think it's more important for the 3D viewport than the 2D viewports. I love moving things around in the 2D viewport, but in 3D, it can get a little sloppy.

I mostly liked the widgets because they automatically showed the origin point and the entity's rotation (In local mode) without anything else being needed. 

[Josh]

12 hours ago, reepblue said:

On the subject of a widget, I think it's more important for the 3D viewport than the 2D viewports. I love moving things around in the 2D viewport, but in 3D, it can get a little sloppy.

I mostly liked the widgets because they automatically showed the origin point and the entity's rotation (In local mode) without anything else being needed. 

I plan to add this as a visual indicator only, while keeping the existing method of moving objects.

[Thirsty Panther]

I have been playing with the editor.

Is there  way  of rotating/scaling textures on CSGs? Or is that still to be implemented?

Can we have "CTRL click and drag" to copy  a CSG object. It is so much quicker than ctrl+c and ctrl+v.

Otherwise the editor is very good for quick map building.

I knocked this one up in less than 20 mins  and that was while learning the editor.

[Josh]

The face tool allows you to adjust CSG face texture mapping.

[carry2693a]

 Why is there a limit to what can be done on such an engine? Also, I see the same physics engine (newton dynamics) used in leadwerks in the ultra engine. From my experience with leadwerks, it has a really buggy physics engine. For example, you can squeeze small objects that can be grabbed and make them go into the wall easily, or if you grab an object and drop it right on top of your character, you can see the object bouncing on your head all the time.

 

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[Josh]

3 hours ago, carry2693a said:

 Why is there a limit to what can be done on such an engine?

What limit do you mean?

[diedir]

Hello Josh,

after toying in Ultra editor a bit, i need some answers if possible:

• Viewport layout : not remembering the last setting
• Zoom in and out commands not working on my side (= and -)
• Zoom limiting at 6% minimum and 5751% max (?)
• Textures on terrain: no UV Tiling ?
• Box object not showing dimensions (x,y,z) only scaling for new dimensions ?
• Is it possible to add a function for viewing (zooming) all objects in a scene or one (entire) object only ?

Thank you for your great job because i am not talking about all that is working good !

[klepto2]

33 minutes ago, diedir said:

• Textures on terrain: no UV Tiling ?

You can change the tiling via the scale setting for each layer.  in theory (which looks very ugly) you can assign a colormap covering the whole terrain.

[diedir]

thanks Klepto2,

i discovered that by myself after posting !

[Canardia]

When I press the Save button, it should say:

Saving map "Maps/start.ultra"...Done

Now it just says:

Saving map "Maps/start.ultra"...

and I don't know when it's done.

[Canardia]

Editor should also have an indicator if the map was changes, for example with a * at the filename and/or a grayed out disc icon. It should also prompt to save when exiting.

[Josh]

3 hours ago, Canardia said:

Editor should also have an indicator if the map was changes, for example with a * at the filename and/or a grayed out disc icon. It should also prompt to save when exiting.

I thought it did this already?

[Leag]

Hi @Josh,
I'm looking to buy Ultra Engine but I'm more familiar with C# than C++. Should I get the Lua Version and upgrade to .NET later when it is released, or wait for the .NET version? 
Would buying Lua now mean paying the full .NET price later?

[Josh]

3 minutes ago, Leag said:

Hi @Josh,
I'm looking to buy Ultra Engine but I'm more familiar with C# than C++. Should I get the Lua Version and upgrade to .NET later when it is released, or wait for the .NET version? 
Would buying Lua now mean paying the full .NET price later?

If you get the C++ version it includes Lua and will include future supported languages.

I have not looked into C# in detail yet and I cannot guarantee when/if it will be added, but I am pretty sure I want to support it. Some users reportedly have working implementations of C# with Ultra but I have not personally tried them out myself.

So it will probably happen but nothing is official until its official.

[Leag]

5 minutes ago, Josh said:

If you get the C++ version it includes Lua and will include future supported languages.

I have not looked into C# in detail yet and I cannot guarantee when/if it will be added, but I am pretty sure I want to support it. Some users reportedly have working implementations of C# with Ultra but I have not personally tried them out myself.

So it will probably happen but nothing is official until its official.

So, if i understand correctly, the Ultra Engine Pro Edition will support C# and other languages in the future.

[Josh]

If and when C# support is added it will be included in the Pro version.

[stepicezs]

 

Ultra Engine more powerful than Leadwerks ? Yes !  and I keep an eye on it when it will be released  and it keeps to expand more in future as update so yes Josh you can stay safe your new engine  

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[karmacomposer]

On 11/7/2023 at 10:23 AM, Josh said:

I plan to add this as a visual indicator only, while keeping the existing method of moving objects.

And how is that done because I cannot figure out how to move objects around in any viewport without the gizmo. I'm completely confused.

I installed the latest Dev version. I have a trackball mouse - no middle mouse button to click. I can scroll however.

Mike