cassius Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 What will happen with le 2 once le 3 has come out? Quote amd quad core 4 ghz / geforce 660 ti 2gb / win 10 Blender,gimp,silo2,ac3d,,audacity,Hexagon / using c++ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macklebee Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 hold on to it if i was you... sounds like LE3 graphic wise will be ****e mobile graphics for any foreseeable future, and no terrains which means no vegetation, which seems strange since newton was forced upon everyone because of the vegetation requirement... Quote Win7 64bit / Intel i7-2600 CPU @ 3.9 GHz / 16 GB DDR3 / NVIDIA GeForce GTX 590 LE / 3DWS / BMX / Hexagon macklebee's channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 I guess I would ask you do you know where LE 1 is right now? Probably not right? Even 2.0 because didn't we pay for an 2.x upgrade? Then it would stand to reason that LE 2.x would take on the same fate once LE 3 is out. He's running a 1 man show with an intern. He can't possibly keep up with 2 completely different version at the same time himself. Of course he's said nothing of this, but come on. LE 3 will have bugs when it's first released. He has many more gameplay features that are newer and will need working out and fixing. I can't see him supporting LE 2.x worth anything really. All this LE 3 work will take year/years to iron out all the kinks and I'm sure he would rather he spend time on the new stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cassius Posted May 22, 2012 Author Share Posted May 22, 2012 Will there be terrain eventualy? I certainly intend to hold on to le 2 It took some time and many updates before le 2 was complete is this likely to happen with le 3 to the same extent? Quote amd quad core 4 ghz / geforce 660 ti 2gb / win 10 Blender,gimp,silo2,ac3d,,audacity,Hexagon / using c++ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cassius Posted May 22, 2012 Author Share Posted May 22, 2012 I doubt if le 2 will need much support from now on.Its pretty well complete. Quote amd quad core 4 ghz / geforce 660 ti 2gb / win 10 Blender,gimp,silo2,ac3d,,audacity,Hexagon / using c++ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Alien Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 ..i believe, poor thing will slowly fade away and die...it did great job for me.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cassius Posted May 22, 2012 Author Share Posted May 22, 2012 I know that le 3 is being aimed at many platforms some of which have **** graphics but if le 2 quality is not an option it will be a pity. Quote amd quad core 4 ghz / geforce 660 ti 2gb / win 10 Blender,gimp,silo2,ac3d,,audacity,Hexagon / using c++ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 At some point, all the graphical capabilities of LE2 and more will be rolled into Leadwerks3D. It takes a lot of time to make a visual game editor. And there will be two interns as of June 1. : Quote My job is to make tools you love, with the features you want, and performance you can't live without. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Kill Kenny Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 He has many more gameplay features that are newer and will need working out and fixing. I can't see him supporting LE 2.x worth anything really. All this LE 3 work will take year/years to iron out all the kinks and I'm sure he would rather he spend time on the new stuff. These so called new gamplay features that we haven't really heard anything about.... What are they? Most of what we've seen so far is.... 1. mobile platform 2. Fancy Editor 3. CSG editor. Tho I don't really have a problem with those in particular they don't have anything to do with game play. What are these hidden "new gameplay features"? Quote STS - Scarlet Thread Studios AKA: Engineer Ken Fact: Game Development is hard... very bloody hard.. If you are not prepared to accept that.. Please give up now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 These so called new gamplay features that we haven't really heard anything about.... What are they? Most of what we've seen so far is.... 1. mobile platform 2. Fancy Editor 3. CSG editor. Tho I don't really have a problem with those in particular they don't have anything to do with game play. What are these hidden "new gameplay features"? Dynamic navmesh pathfinding, multiple scripts attached to any entity, and "Synapse" the visual logic editor. This creates a framework for game interactions that is very easy to make plug and play components for. You can conceivably make a game with this, with no programming at all, but it doesn't retard the capabilities of what a good coder can do with it. I wouldn't have been happy making a fenced-in game maker type thing. Quote My job is to make tools you love, with the features you want, and performance you can't live without. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Kill Kenny Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Dynamic navmesh pathfinding, multiple scripts attached to any entity, and "Synapse" the visual logic editor. This creates a framework for game interactions that is very easy to make plug and play components for. You can conceivably make a game with this, with no programming at all, but it doesn't retard the capabilities of what a good coder can do with it. I wouldn't have been happy making a fenced-in game maker type thing. Thanks, for some reason I forgot about the pathfinding. Concerning Synapse... So far it sounds a bit like Unreal Kismet? Quote STS - Scarlet Thread Studios AKA: Engineer Ken Fact: Game Development is hard... very bloody hard.. If you are not prepared to accept that.. Please give up now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 It's like Kismet, but more usable IMO. I always found Kismet to be bewildering. Quote My job is to make tools you love, with the features you want, and performance you can't live without. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cassius Posted May 22, 2012 Author Share Posted May 22, 2012 For people who don't want to upgrade its best for wiki help files etc to remain available or be downloadable. Quote amd quad core 4 ghz / geforce 660 ti 2gb / win 10 Blender,gimp,silo2,ac3d,,audacity,Hexagon / using c++ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 At some point, all the graphical capabilities of LE2 and more will be rolled into Leadwerks3D. It takes a lot of time to make a visual game editor. And there will be two interns as of June 1. : Any time frame for that point? Quote AV MX Linux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benton Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 I don't see it taking years to make. Josh could just port LE2 renderer over...maybe a couple months...but I know nothing about this. Quote Windows 7 Professional 64 bit, 16 gigs ram, 3.30GHz Quad Core, GeForce GTX 460 one gig, Leadwerks 2.5, Blender 2.62, Photoshop CS3, UU3D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 I think you, or whoever first mentioned the idea of porting LE2 renderer, sparked an idea in Josh and I wouldn't be shocked if he made the wrapper himself to give people this functionality on launch now. It's a good idea to satisfy most people if it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benton Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Agreed. LE3 might be so abstract this might only take a few days... Quote Windows 7 Professional 64 bit, 16 gigs ram, 3.30GHz Quad Core, GeForce GTX 460 one gig, Leadwerks 2.5, Blender 2.62, Photoshop CS3, UU3D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 What an excellent idea Everyone will be happy Quote AV MX Linux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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