MOAVGproductions Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Questions about the leadwerks game engine: 1. Would I be able to make a game that has non-linear gameplay? 2. Would I be able to make cars in a game that you can exit, and enter freely? 3. If I got the Leadwerks game engine sdk, would it come with the upgrade? 4. Would I be able to make a city with it, sort of grand theft auto style? Thank you, MOAVGproductions. Quote MY Awesome Gamming rig(I think I dumbed it down enough * CPU Name: AMD Phenom II X4 945 Processor * Windows MHz: 3010 * COSBI CPU Clock speed is 3 ghz * CPU External Clock: 200 MHz * BIOS: BIOS Date: 07/08/09 14:50:39 Ver: 02.11, Version: NEC - 20090708 * Graphics adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 285 * Graphics adapter memory: 1,024 MB * Memory Amount (MB): 4096 * Hard drive model: WDC WD10EADS-00M2B0 ATA Device, Size: 1,000.2 GB * Screen Resolution: 1680x1050x32@75Hz * OS Name: Windows 7 Ultimate * Version: 6.1 * Build: 7100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L B Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 1. Yes 2. Yes 3. Yes, if you buy the $200 version 4. Yes, with very large (4096x4096) terrain Basically, you're asking if you can make a GTA with LE. The answer is yes. With LE, the moreoften, you are your own limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOAVGproductions Posted December 18, 2009 Author Share Posted December 18, 2009 Thanks, I think I'm going to get this! Quote MY Awesome Gamming rig(I think I dumbed it down enough * CPU Name: AMD Phenom II X4 945 Processor * Windows MHz: 3010 * COSBI CPU Clock speed is 3 ghz * CPU External Clock: 200 MHz * BIOS: BIOS Date: 07/08/09 14:50:39 Ver: 02.11, Version: NEC - 20090708 * Graphics adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 285 * Graphics adapter memory: 1,024 MB * Memory Amount (MB): 4096 * Hard drive model: WDC WD10EADS-00M2B0 ATA Device, Size: 1,000.2 GB * Screen Resolution: 1680x1050x32@75Hz * OS Name: Windows 7 Ultimate * Version: 6.1 * Build: 7100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 The only version sold now is 2.3. Keep in mind you still have to design gameplay yourself. The engine takes care of the technical foundation and lets you make the game. Quote My job is to make tools you love, with the features you want, and performance you can't live without. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOAVGproductions Posted December 18, 2009 Author Share Posted December 18, 2009 OH! Also, would I be able to make an mmorpg, or a huge rpg game with multiplayer capabilities (I'm guessing the answer is yes, most likely)? Thank you, MOAVGproductions Quote MY Awesome Gamming rig(I think I dumbed it down enough * CPU Name: AMD Phenom II X4 945 Processor * Windows MHz: 3010 * COSBI CPU Clock speed is 3 ghz * CPU External Clock: 200 MHz * BIOS: BIOS Date: 07/08/09 14:50:39 Ver: 02.11, Version: NEC - 20090708 * Graphics adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 285 * Graphics adapter memory: 1,024 MB * Memory Amount (MB): 4096 * Hard drive model: WDC WD10EADS-00M2B0 ATA Device, Size: 1,000.2 GB * Screen Resolution: 1680x1050x32@75Hz * OS Name: Windows 7 Ultimate * Version: 6.1 * Build: 7100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L B Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Yes, but remember it is a hard and tedious task. Although Leadwerks is probably one of the best engines to start with, it will take you time and determination, as well as programming skills. I would suggest either BlitzMax, C/C++ or C# knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Alien Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 ..hmm..you got answers previously, but to make it really clear..engine WILL not do ANY of this things you looking for..engine has interface exposed to you as a programmer to make those things on your own, but DO NOT expect any of things you mentioned, working out of box.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davaris Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 OH! Also, would I be able to make an mmorpg, or a huge rpg game with multiplayer capabilities (I'm guessing the answer is yes, most likely)? Thank you, MOAVGproductions Most people couldn't program a MMORPG themselves, as they are very hard to do. There are companies that specialize in making MMORPG engines, but they don't look anywhere near as good as the Lead Works engine - but at least they are ready to make an MMORPG with. Research those engines thoroughly first, because some claim to be more ready than what they really are. Quote Win 7 Pro 64 bit AMD Phenom II X3 720 2.8GHz GeForce 9800 GTX/9800 GTX+ 4 GB RAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheoLogic Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Keep in mind that you need some solid system specs for GTA style and MMORPG style games in LeadWerks. Quote Follow me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L B Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Most people couldn't program a MMORPG themselves, as they are very hard to do. There are companies that specialize in making MMORPG engines, but they don't look anywhere near as good as the Lead Works engine - but at least they are ready to make an MMORPG with. Research those engines thoroughly first, because some claim to be more ready than what they really are. I'm tackling on that task, and so far, it doesn't seem impossible at all. UI, movement, networking, all quite easy with Leadwerks + C#. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOAVGproductions Posted December 21, 2009 Author Share Posted December 21, 2009 Hmm... thank you for all of your answers, but I have one more question. Q. What kind of software would I need to go with LE to jump start me in the right direction? (Also if you could recomend a 3d modeling program that is under $300 dollars that is compatible with LE would be nice! ) Once again, Thank you for putting your time into my answers! Quote MY Awesome Gamming rig(I think I dumbed it down enough * CPU Name: AMD Phenom II X4 945 Processor * Windows MHz: 3010 * COSBI CPU Clock speed is 3 ghz * CPU External Clock: 200 MHz * BIOS: BIOS Date: 07/08/09 14:50:39 Ver: 02.11, Version: NEC - 20090708 * Graphics adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 285 * Graphics adapter memory: 1,024 MB * Memory Amount (MB): 4096 * Hard drive model: WDC WD10EADS-00M2B0 ATA Device, Size: 1,000.2 GB * Screen Resolution: 1680x1050x32@75Hz * OS Name: Windows 7 Ultimate * Version: 6.1 * Build: 7100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardia Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 The new Blender 2.50 alpha is very easy to use, and can save as fbx and obj, which can be converted by the engine's tools to gmf. The last time I tried only obj worked, but it was enough to make a model for LE. I suppose in the final 2.50 version also fbx will work. Besides Blender, you should also have UU3D Pro, to get all kinds of models converted to LE. I use also 3DWS for architecture modelling. Then you need also Gimp and Paint.NET (might not be needed anymore, as LE seems to have now a better tool for DDS export, since it does seamless mipmap pattern based on average colors) for texture editing. Quote ■ Ryzen 9 ■ RX 6800M ■ 16GB ■ XF8 ■ Windows 11 ■ ■ Ultra ■ LE 2.5 ■ 3DWS 5.6 ■ Reaper ■ C/C++ ■ C# ■ Fortran 2008 ■ Story ■ ■ Homepage: https://canardia.com ■ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOAVGproductions Posted December 21, 2009 Author Share Posted December 21, 2009 Blender is pretty ok to use, it's just a little complicated to use. I like something that has a 4 view port. I guess something like AC3d I just don't know if it'll work. Oh what about a texture creator program? I was thinking about using texture maker from Thegamecreators.com, will that work? Quote MY Awesome Gamming rig(I think I dumbed it down enough * CPU Name: AMD Phenom II X4 945 Processor * Windows MHz: 3010 * COSBI CPU Clock speed is 3 ghz * CPU External Clock: 200 MHz * BIOS: BIOS Date: 07/08/09 14:50:39 Ver: 02.11, Version: NEC - 20090708 * Graphics adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 285 * Graphics adapter memory: 1,024 MB * Memory Amount (MB): 4096 * Hard drive model: WDC WD10EADS-00M2B0 ATA Device, Size: 1,000.2 GB * Screen Resolution: 1680x1050x32@75Hz * OS Name: Windows 7 Ultimate * Version: 6.1 * Build: 7100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardia Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 I don't know what texture creator would be good for. I can make seamless textures in Gimp very easily by first offsetting the texture, and then brushing out the seams with the clone stamp tool using a low enough opacity on the pencil. You can configure Blender to have also 4 viewports, or as many you like, and save it as your default setting. Quote ■ Ryzen 9 ■ RX 6800M ■ 16GB ■ XF8 ■ Windows 11 ■ ■ Ultra ■ LE 2.5 ■ 3DWS 5.6 ■ Reaper ■ C/C++ ■ C# ■ Fortran 2008 ■ Story ■ ■ Homepage: https://canardia.com ■ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marleys Ghost Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 Blender is pretty ok to use, it's just a little complicated to use. I like something that has a 4 view port. I guess something like AC3d I just don't know if it'll work. Oh what about a texture creator program? I was thinking about using texture maker from Thegamecreators.com, will that work? I dont know about the latest Blender 2.50 alpha, but you could set it to a 4 view port config by splitting the screens. I like AC3D which I found much less awkward to use than blender. As for textures I use Gimp and Paint.NET and make my own so have never tried the software you mentioned. Quote AMD Bulldozer FX-4 Quad Core 4100 Black Edition 2 x 4GB DDR3 1333Mhz Memory Gigabyte GeForce GTX 550 Ti OC 1024MB GDDR5 Windows 7 Home 64 bit BlitzMax 1.50 • Lua 5.1 • MaxGUI 1.41 • UU3D Pro • MessiahStudio Pro • Silo Pro 3D Coat • ShaderMap Pro • Hexagon 2 • Photoshop, Gimp & Paint.NET LE 2.5/3.4 • Skyline • UE4 • CE3 SDK • Unity 5 • Esenthel Engine 2.0 Marleys Ghost's YouTube Channel • Marleys Ghost's Blog "I used to be alive like you .... then I took an arrow to the head" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOAVGproductions Posted December 21, 2009 Author Share Posted December 21, 2009 thanks, so... Can anyone else recomend anything else? Thanks, Quote MY Awesome Gamming rig(I think I dumbed it down enough * CPU Name: AMD Phenom II X4 945 Processor * Windows MHz: 3010 * COSBI CPU Clock speed is 3 ghz * CPU External Clock: 200 MHz * BIOS: BIOS Date: 07/08/09 14:50:39 Ver: 02.11, Version: NEC - 20090708 * Graphics adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 285 * Graphics adapter memory: 1,024 MB * Memory Amount (MB): 4096 * Hard drive model: WDC WD10EADS-00M2B0 ATA Device, Size: 1,000.2 GB * Screen Resolution: 1680x1050x32@75Hz * OS Name: Windows 7 Ultimate * Version: 6.1 * Build: 7100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marleys Ghost Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 thanks, so... Can anyone else recomend anything else? Thanks, for use with LE? Quote AMD Bulldozer FX-4 Quad Core 4100 Black Edition 2 x 4GB DDR3 1333Mhz Memory Gigabyte GeForce GTX 550 Ti OC 1024MB GDDR5 Windows 7 Home 64 bit BlitzMax 1.50 • Lua 5.1 • MaxGUI 1.41 • UU3D Pro • MessiahStudio Pro • Silo Pro 3D Coat • ShaderMap Pro • Hexagon 2 • Photoshop, Gimp & Paint.NET LE 2.5/3.4 • Skyline • UE4 • CE3 SDK • Unity 5 • Esenthel Engine 2.0 Marleys Ghost's YouTube Channel • Marleys Ghost's Blog "I used to be alive like you .... then I took an arrow to the head" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOAVGproductions Posted December 21, 2009 Author Share Posted December 21, 2009 yeah, Quote MY Awesome Gamming rig(I think I dumbed it down enough * CPU Name: AMD Phenom II X4 945 Processor * Windows MHz: 3010 * COSBI CPU Clock speed is 3 ghz * CPU External Clock: 200 MHz * BIOS: BIOS Date: 07/08/09 14:50:39 Ver: 02.11, Version: NEC - 20090708 * Graphics adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 285 * Graphics adapter memory: 1,024 MB * Memory Amount (MB): 4096 * Hard drive model: WDC WD10EADS-00M2B0 ATA Device, Size: 1,000.2 GB * Screen Resolution: 1680x1050x32@75Hz * OS Name: Windows 7 Ultimate * Version: 6.1 * Build: 7100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOAVGproductions Posted December 21, 2009 Author Share Posted December 21, 2009 I guess a better way t oput my question is... What programs are you currently using with Leadwerks to help create your games? Quote MY Awesome Gamming rig(I think I dumbed it down enough * CPU Name: AMD Phenom II X4 945 Processor * Windows MHz: 3010 * COSBI CPU Clock speed is 3 ghz * CPU External Clock: 200 MHz * BIOS: BIOS Date: 07/08/09 14:50:39 Ver: 02.11, Version: NEC - 20090708 * Graphics adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 285 * Graphics adapter memory: 1,024 MB * Memory Amount (MB): 4096 * Hard drive model: WDC WD10EADS-00M2B0 ATA Device, Size: 1,000.2 GB * Screen Resolution: 1680x1050x32@75Hz * OS Name: Windows 7 Ultimate * Version: 6.1 * Build: 7100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L B Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 For 3D modeling, it depends on your skill, budget, or whatnot. Blender is a good free solution, although, in my opinion, the learning curve is horrible. I used Milkshape 3D for some things, but I'm not sure everyone likes it. For converting to DDS (the only texture format), there are tools in the download section. You can also use the free Paint.NET and plug-ins for the free GIMP or Photoshop. For making textures, interface, design or whatnot, the GIMP, Photoshop, Paint.NET, whatever. You can also use TGC Texture Maker, which is a good tool, although you will have to save in a format and then convert it to DDS. I'm not much use on 3D modeling because I haven't learned it, but I guess others have suggested pretty good options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cassius Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 ac3d is exelent and very le friendly. Quote amd quad core 4 ghz / geforce 660 ti 2gb / win 10 Blender,gimp,silo2,ac3d,,audacity,Hexagon / using c++ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macklebee Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 ac3d is exelent and very le friendly. cassius, did you go to ac3d instead of hexagon? Quote Win7 64bit / Intel i7-2600 CPU @ 3.9 GHz / 16 GB DDR3 / NVIDIA GeForce GTX 590 LE / 3DWS / BMX / Hexagon macklebee's channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wailingmonkey Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 MOAVGproductions: http://forum.leadwerks.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3178 Quote Vista Ultimate SP1 64bit | Q6600 2.40 GHZ | 8GB RAM | 320MB Nvidia 8800GTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marleys Ghost Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 cassius, did you go to ac3d instead of hexagon? Those are the two choices I am mulling over at the moment, I did really like AC3D. Quote AMD Bulldozer FX-4 Quad Core 4100 Black Edition 2 x 4GB DDR3 1333Mhz Memory Gigabyte GeForce GTX 550 Ti OC 1024MB GDDR5 Windows 7 Home 64 bit BlitzMax 1.50 • Lua 5.1 • MaxGUI 1.41 • UU3D Pro • MessiahStudio Pro • Silo Pro 3D Coat • ShaderMap Pro • Hexagon 2 • Photoshop, Gimp & Paint.NET LE 2.5/3.4 • Skyline • UE4 • CE3 SDK • Unity 5 • Esenthel Engine 2.0 Marleys Ghost's YouTube Channel • Marleys Ghost's Blog "I used to be alive like you .... then I took an arrow to the head" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxsmith Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 1. Would I be able to make a game that has non-linear gameplay?2. Would I be able to make cars in a game that you can exit, and enter freely? 3. If I got the Leadwerks game engine sdk, would it come with the upgrade? 4. Would I be able to make a city with it, sort of grand theft auto style? OH! Also, would I be able to make an mmorpg, or a huge rpg game with multiplayer capabilities (I'm guessing the answer is yes, most likely)? People like you pop up frequently on almost every game development-related forum in existence, but your post is interesting in that you want to make GTA and an MMORPG. There's a reason there are so few high-quality independent games, you know, and it's pretty obvious that you have extremely little experience -- you don't even know what tools you need to create the game's content. Everyone says the same damn thing to posts like yours, too -- start small, start small, start small. By all means, make games, have fun with it, gain experience through it; but your GTA MMORPG is not going to happen. How fortunate that my first post on this forum is so antagonistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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