Player Controller Crouching

[Rick]

Yes a float for the the new height would be cool, although if this is availabe next thing you will need is to change controller orientation... crouching is not so much an issue, but to make prone realistic you would need to basically rotate the controller mesh by 90degrees to simulate lying down..

 

I know this is growing outside scope but height and orientation would be nice... so for crouch you can set the height, but for prone you can set the height normal but set the rotation to 90... or 1 for 90 degree rotation, I am sure this will create a whole bunch of issues but it was just a suggestion...

 

 

I don't know if I would rotate the controller. Instead it would be nice if you could make oval shaped. Then you could change the shape of the controller instead to be long and narrow.

[Chiblue]

I don't know if I would rotate the controller. Instead it would be nice if you could make oval shaped. Then you could change the shape of the controller instead to be long and narrow.

 

That would work to, in GDK, using thier controller the problem was you could not change the this, you just had a width...

 

From the way it is working based on wiki, It would appear that Josh is actually creating 2 controllers of different heights... that switch on the updatecontrol "crouch" option setting...

 

Given this scheme, it would be very helpful if we had 3 height options...

i.e...

Controller::Controller( flt height, flt radius=0.4f, flt stepheight=0.5f, flt maxslope=45, flt height1=0, flt height2=0 )

 

void Controller::Update( flt angle, flt move, flt strafe = 0.0f, flt jump = 0.0f, flt maxacceleration = 0.5f, int iterations=1, int heightmode=0 )

Were heightmode can be 0 (height),1 (height1) or 2 (height)...

 

Then instead of the

int ControllerCrouched( TController controller )

 

Have this:-

 

int ControllerHeightMode( TController controller )

Which returns a 0,1 or 2 depending upon which mode is currently active..

 

I do not mean to say what has been done is not very helpful, but I believe that having 3 possible heights would be workable for any application...

 

Ideally, having the ability to set the heigth,width and depth for the 3 modes would be perfert for creating realistic FPS character cotrollers..

[Canardia]

A 90 degrees rotated controller is also not optimal for prone stance, it should be more like 1/4 long oval cylinder, which is only 1/8 height of the original controller.

 

In prone stance you can still turn around in narrow tunnels, but you need about 1/4 of your body height room for that in either X or Y dimension.

[Chiblue]

Some need more....

[Niosop]

In order to satisfy everyone it's going to need to be extensible. Something like leaving CreateController like it is now, but adding a AddControllerStance(controller, Vec3 size) function that will allow you to define a size for that stance. It would return an integer index. You could then call something like SetControllerStance(3) to set the controller size/shape to whatever index 3 was.

 

Anybody see any drawbacks to this approach?

[DaDonik]

That sounds like a nice idea Niosop.

 

Something like SetEntityTarget() but for controller shapes.

[Rick]

Anybody see any drawbacks to this approach?

 

I'm sure Josh does because it means more work for him

[Niosop]

Less in the long run because we could then support our own arbitrary requests for controller shapes/sizes instead of asking him to add support for making a controller bigger when we eat the magic mushroom, this pill makes me smaller, cute little mexican midgets, etc...

[Chiblue]

I was thinking about that approach but was trying to keep my wish list in the realms of possibility lol

 

and there ain't anything cute about mexican midgets, ever meet a drunk one. SCARY

[Josh]

The primary challenge with a prone stance is collision detection to tell if the player is able to go prone. An elongated shape may also cause unforeseen problems since the controller code has until now used a cylindrical shape.

[VeTaL]

Okay, crouching is great, but what about laying position?

Can it be added some addition scaling for crouching position?

 

For example, when player stand, its size is 1,1,3.

When player is crouching, its size is 1.2, 1, 1.5 (because sitting person in X axis takes more space then stading)

When player is laying, its size is 2.5, 1, 0.5 (leg is laying on the ground)