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Any significant performance increase from 9600 to 9800?

I got all my performance back after using SetShadowMode(0, 1). Although, simply for Josh, note that putting the ShadowMapSize of all my point light maps to 2, 4, or 8 (a.k.a. really low values) does NOT give a boost in performance when the shadow is handled with a skinned mesh. I think the skin + shadow system needs to be reviewed, or else my material files are somehow wrong.

Trying not to be harsh, but it's hard: Has any of us filled a 4096x4096 map, even at the scale of 1meter/tile? Has any of us released a game or is really implicated in the release of a game with such a feature? I think we're asking for things we don't need, which is a failure at being productive.

I can't because the light is automatically created from the LUA script. This way I don't have to place a light for each lamp I place. Here's my script for the lamp post: dofile("Scripts/base.lua") function Spawn(model) local entity=base_Spawn(model) entity.model=model local light=CreatePointLight(30,model) light:Move(Vec3(0, 3.85, 0)) local intensity = 1 light:SetColor(Vec4(245/255*intensity, 170/255*intensity, 115/255*0.7, 255/255*intensity)) light:SetShadowmapSize(64) light:SetKey("castshadows", 0) -- Didn't work. return entity end On a side note, any recommendation for a GPU? My budget's low but one can dream.

Trying to remove it in LUA, can't figure how. Assume the light is declared like this: "local light = CreatePointLight(10, model)" How do I disable shadows?

GeForce 9600 GT, 4GB RAM, 2.30 Ghz Dual Core, W7RC. (Although, I have no bump mapping, 4 lights in scene (1 dir+3 points), and no ground cover (i.e. few models)). I'm really not figuring what's wrong there, it MIGHT be my character logic, but I doubt it. And heck, GI and molecular precision will be in place before I have a demo out. I'll try removing the shadows on the lights and see how it works.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocJZeWOWA9Q Note the uber-low FPS around the multi-lights area in the beginning. Any suggestion appreciated. The shadowmap size of these lights is like 32. I know the animation is not normalized, the video quality is crappy, and I don't have Framewerk yet because this is in C# and well, I'm the one who's supposed to make Framewerk.

Was expecting it from Josh, but thanks

Even if the collision body is big, it doesn't have more vertices. Nonetheless, is there a way to disable shadowing on specific lights and mesh combination? Like turn "CastShadow" off but only for a specified light?

Haven't turned on DebugPhysics, so that isn't it. I'll make serious models when I get to my actual game characters, but the wizard is a test model. On a second note, it seems to only happen in the vicinity of many lights (a.k.a. directional + point + point). Are skinned meshes slow on lights?

I don't have a 64-bit OS so I can't compile it this way for you guys. If anyone has and is interested in re-compiling, contact me.

Talk about a great community. This is like 20 fixes for Afecelis in one thread haha. I love LE.

I saw it, but I thought you used it for reflections, not for ambient shadowing.

http://www.crytek.com/fileadmin/user_upload/inside/presentations/2009/A_bit_more_deferred_-_CryEngine3.ppt Nice features to look at, including improved SSAO with normals. I always wondered, why is our SSAO so strict? Appears to me it only covers the edges, not a wider area, like in CryEngine. Of course, there's a lot of talk about GI in there, but I think Josh might just as well pop the head of the next person who asks for it.

As title suggests. Could bring great improvements.

I'm making a control code (move, change camera orientation, etc.), just like in any classic MMORPG. Losing 10 FPS with this, and it's just logic. I know it's in C#, but anyone here would understand I think. using Leadwerks; namespace Origins { public enum PlayerState { Idle, ForwardWalking, Dying, Hit, Jumping, Attacking, MagicAttacking, LeftWalking, RightWalking, BackwardWalking, Flying } public class Player { public Camera Camera { get; set; } public Controller Controller { get; set; } public Mesh Mesh { get; set; } private Vector3 Rotation { get; set; } private Vector2 MouseDelta { get; set; } private Vector2 MouseOrigin { get; set; } private Vector3 Movement { get; set; } private float Zoom { get; set; } private float Jump { get; set; } private bool Reorient { get; set; } public PlayerState State { get; set; } private PlayerState OldState { get; set; } private int DeathFrame = 0; private int HitFrame = 80; private int IdleFrame = 106; private int JumpFrame = 176; private int MagicFrame = 203; private int MeleeFrame = 250; private int RunFrame = 297; private int SideFrame = 323; private int WalkFrame = 357; private int BackFrame = 393; public Player() { this.Camera = new Camera(); this.Controller = new Controller(1.8f, 0.5f, 0.5f, 45.0f); this.Controller.Mass = 1; this.Controller.CollisionType = (int)CollisionType.Character; this.Mesh = Mesh.Load("abstract::wizard.gmf"); this.Mesh.Parent = this.Controller; this.Mesh.Scale = new Vector3(0.01f); this.Mesh.Move(new Vector3(0, -90.0f, 0)); this.Rotation = new Vector3(); this.MouseDelta = new Vector2(); this.MouseOrigin = new Vector2(); this.Movement = new Vector3(); this.Zoom = 1.0f; this.Jump = 0.0f; this.Reorient = false; //Light lantern = Light.CreatePoint(5); //lantern.ShadowmapSize = 16; //lantern.Color = new Vector4(1, 0, 0, 1); //lantern.Parent = this.Mesh.GetChild("stuff2"); } public void Update() { this.OldState = this.State; this.State = PlayerState.Idle; switch (Keyboard.KeyHit(Key.Space) && !this.Controller.IsAirborne()) { case true: this.Jump = 5.0f; break; case false: this.Jump = 0.0f; break; } switch (Keyboard.IntKeyDown(Key.W) - Keyboard.IntKeyDown(Key.S)) { case 1: this.State = PlayerState.ForwardWalking; this.Movement.Z = 4.0f; break; case 0: this.Movement.Z = 0.0f; break; case -1: this.State = PlayerState.BackwardWalking; this.Movement.Z = -2.0f; break; } if (Mouse.ButtonDown(MouseButton.Left) || Mouse.ButtonDown(MouseButton.Right)) { Mouse.Hide(); switch (Keyboard.IntKeyDown(Key.D) - Keyboard.IntKeyDown(Key.A)) { case 1: this.State = PlayerState.RightWalking; this.Movement.X = 2.0f; break; case 0: this.Movement.X = 0.0f; break; case -1: this.State = PlayerState.LeftWalking; this.Movement.X = -2.0f; break; } this.MouseDelta.X = Utilities.Curve(Mouse.X - this.MouseOrigin.X, this.MouseDelta.X, 5.0f); this.MouseDelta.Y = Utilities.Curve(Mouse.Y - this.MouseOrigin.Y, this.MouseDelta.Y, 5.0f); this.Rotation.X += this.MouseDelta.Y / 5.0f; this.Rotation.Y -= this.MouseDelta.X / 5.0f; Mouse.Move((int)this.MouseOrigin.X, (int)this.MouseOrigin.Y); } else { this.Movement.X = 0.0f; Mouse.Show(); this.Rotation.Y -= (float)(Keyboard.IntKeyDown(Key.D) * 3 - Keyboard.IntKeyDown(Key.A) * 3); } if (this.Controller.IsAirborne()) { this.State = PlayerState.Jumping; } if (Mouse.ButtonDown(MouseButton.Right) || Keyboard.KeyDown(Key.D) || Keyboard.KeyDown(Key.A) || Keyboard.KeyDown(Key.W) || Keyboard.KeyDown(Key.S)) { this.Reorient = true; } else { this.Reorient = false; } this.Camera.Rotation = this.Rotation; this.Zoom = Utilities.Curve((float)-Mouse.Z, this.Zoom, 5.0f); if (this.Reorient) { this.Controller.Update(this.Rotation.Y, this.Movement.Z, this.Movement.X, this.Jump, 500.0f, 1); } else { this.Controller.Update(this.Controller.Rotation.Y, this.Movement.Z, this.Movement.X, this.Jump, 500.0f, 1); } this.Camera.Position = this.Controller.Position; this.Camera.Move(new Vector3(0.0f, 0.5f * this.Zoom, -2.5f * this.Zoom)); this.MouseOrigin.X = (float)Mouse.X; this.MouseOrigin.Y = (float)Mouse.Y; if (this.State != this.OldState) { /* death 0 80 hit 80 106 idle 106 176 jump 176 203 magic 203 250 melee 250 297 run 297 323 side 323 357 walk 357 393 walk back 393 429 */ this.DeathFrame = 0; this.HitFrame = 80; this.IdleFrame = 106; this.JumpFrame = 176; this.MagicFrame = 203; this.MeleeFrame = 250; this.RunFrame = 297; this.SideFrame = 323; this.WalkFrame = 357; this.BackFrame = 393; } this.DeathFrame++; this.HitFrame++; this.IdleFrame++; this.JumpFrame++; this.MagicFrame++; this.MeleeFrame++; this.RunFrame++; this.SideFrame++; this.WalkFrame++; this.BackFrame++; if (DeathFrame == 80) DeathFrame = 1; if (HitFrame == 106) HitFrame = 81; if (IdleFrame == 176) IdleFrame = 107; if (MagicFrame == 250) MagicFrame = 204; if (MeleeFrame == 297) MeleeFrame = 251; if (RunFrame == 323) RunFrame = 298; if (SideFrame == 357) SideFrame = 324; if (WalkFrame == 393) WalkFrame = 358; if (BackFrame == 429) BackFrame = 394; switch (this.State) { case PlayerState.Idle: this.Mesh.Animate(IdleFrame, 1, 0, 1); break; case PlayerState.ForwardWalking: this.Mesh.Animate(RunFrame, 1, 0, 1); break; case PlayerState.BackwardWalking: this.Mesh.Animate(BackFrame, 1, 0, 1); break; case PlayerState.LeftWalking: case PlayerState.RightWalking: this.Mesh.Animate(SideFrame, 1, 0, 1); break; case PlayerState.Jumping: this.Mesh.Animate(JumpFrame, 1, 0, 1); break; case PlayerState.Flying: this.Mesh.Animate(185, 1, 0, 1); break; } } } }

I agree with you, although Josh has told me he might be interested by my headers, given that he can review them. Note that he also pinned my topic, which I guess is some sign of acceptance. Nevertheless, Josh is not a C# coder, so he might never actually support it. Saying the community support is too weak is just like saying the C++ community support is too weak because the headers are only maintained by Mika.

Hasn't Josh already told us 20 times that both an increased terrain texture layer count and an eventual alternative way of doing GI (to use his words: "I think I know a way of doing this.")? If I were Josh, I would totally understand why not pushing these features: No one has made a single game yet.

Got some progress: Any advice? Here are my mat files: base.body_c.mat texture0 = "abstract::body.dds" texture1 = "abstract::body_normal.dds" shader = "abstract::mesh_diffuse_bumpmap_skin.vert" , "abstract::mesh_diffuse_bumpmap_specular.frag" shadowshader = "abstract::mesh_shadow_skin.vert","" base.posoh_c.mat texture0 = "abstract::staff.dds" texture1 = "abstract::staff_normal.dds" shader = "abstract::mesh_skin_diffuse.vert" , "abstract::mesh_diffuse_alphatest.frag" shadowshader = "abstract::mesh_shadow_skin.vert",""

Having a lot of trouble with it. I used the FBX format and fbx2gmf.exe, made the good .mat files, but it stays black (IMHO, it's because there's no abstract:: in the surface names and there's also a dot in them). Also, there are bones, but the mesh isn't attached to it. Any idea?

Incredible. Can't thank you enough. You save me bucks

Have a look at http://forum.leadwerks.com/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=2771, although I doubt this is what you want.

GetHwnd() Assuming you use C/C++.

It's been available once?

Fraps. http://www.fraps.com/