Marleys Ghost Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 MG: I just tried your version and the ground doesn't look as good as the Gamelib version I am using. There seems to be less layers and the bump maps aren't working? I am not entirely sure I follow, as it simply calls LoadScene() ... can you explain a little more? Quote AMD Bulldozer FX-4 Quad Core 4100 Black Edition 2 x 4GB DDR3 1333Mhz Memory Gigabyte GeForce GTX 550 Ti OC 1024MB GDDR5 Windows 7 Home 64 bit BlitzMax 1.50 • Lua 5.1 • MaxGUI 1.41 • UU3D Pro • MessiahStudio Pro • Silo Pro 3D Coat • ShaderMap Pro • Hexagon 2 • Photoshop, Gimp & Paint.NET LE 2.5/3.4 • Skyline • UE4 • CE3 SDK • Unity 5 • Esenthel Engine 2.0 Marleys Ghost's YouTube Channel • Marleys Ghost's Blog "I used to be alive like you .... then I took an arrow to the head" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davaris Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 Actually looking at it again, there isn't a problem other than the Gamelib one is a lot brighter so the details seem to pop out. I attached some pictures for you to compare. The Gamelib one has some extra effects turned on but the roots look kind of flat in the framewerk picture. I don't know if it is the missing effects though. framewerk gamelib Quote Win 7 Pro 64 bit AMD Phenom II X3 720 2.8GHz GeForce 9800 GTX/9800 GTX+ 4 GB RAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macklebee Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 from what I see is that the gamelib has effects like bloom, distance fog, maybe even hdr... and if you had the fps showing on the gamelib screenshot you would also see that the fps was probably lower as well... --edit i see that you edited... yep thats the difference. Quote Win7 64bit / Intel i7-2600 CPU @ 3.9 GHz / 16 GB DDR3 / NVIDIA GeForce GTX 590 LE / 3DWS / BMX / Hexagon macklebee's channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davaris Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 Do the roots look flat in the framewerk picture to you? Which effect brings them out like they are in the Gamelib version? Quote Win 7 Pro 64 bit AMD Phenom II X3 720 2.8GHz GeForce 9800 GTX/9800 GTX+ 4 GB RAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macklebee Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 well it could be that the bumpmap isn't being loaded, but it probably is... is this a terrain texture or a vegetation layer? there are no shadows at all... maybe gamelib is also turning on AA/SSAO as well, or it could be just HDR giving the extra contrast... cannot really say because I don't use gamelib/c++ Quote Win7 64bit / Intel i7-2600 CPU @ 3.9 GHz / 16 GB DDR3 / NVIDIA GeForce GTX 590 LE / 3DWS / BMX / Hexagon macklebee's channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marleys Ghost Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 Do the roots look flat in the framewerk picture to you? Which effect brings them out like they are in the Gamelib version? Well if memory serves (and it does sometimes just not as often as I'd like lol) both use the same FX that Framewrk does.. as they both use it .. have you got them turned on? what settings are you using for Gamelib? Quote AMD Bulldozer FX-4 Quad Core 4100 Black Edition 2 x 4GB DDR3 1333Mhz Memory Gigabyte GeForce GTX 550 Ti OC 1024MB GDDR5 Windows 7 Home 64 bit BlitzMax 1.50 • Lua 5.1 • MaxGUI 1.41 • UU3D Pro • MessiahStudio Pro • Silo Pro 3D Coat • ShaderMap Pro • Hexagon 2 • Photoshop, Gimp & Paint.NET LE 2.5/3.4 • Skyline • UE4 • CE3 SDK • Unity 5 • Esenthel Engine 2.0 Marleys Ghost's YouTube Channel • Marleys Ghost's Blog "I used to be alive like you .... then I took an arrow to the head" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davaris Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 is this a terrain texture or a vegetation layer This is terrain only. It is the jungle part of the free set Josh uploaded. have you got them turned on? what settings are you using for Gamelib? I just checked the effects on both and got this: Gamelib: ssao, bloom, antialias, dof, fog, god rays. framework ssao, hdr, bloom, antialias, god rays. I'm not sure if hdr works on my card though. Quote Win 7 Pro 64 bit AMD Phenom II X3 720 2.8GHz GeForce 9800 GTX/9800 GTX+ 4 GB RAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marleys Ghost Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 Have you tried standardising the FX that is using the same for each? what DoF and Fog settings are you using? Ambient light settings? Quote AMD Bulldozer FX-4 Quad Core 4100 Black Edition 2 x 4GB DDR3 1333Mhz Memory Gigabyte GeForce GTX 550 Ti OC 1024MB GDDR5 Windows 7 Home 64 bit BlitzMax 1.50 • Lua 5.1 • MaxGUI 1.41 • UU3D Pro • MessiahStudio Pro • Silo Pro 3D Coat • ShaderMap Pro • Hexagon 2 • Photoshop, Gimp & Paint.NET LE 2.5/3.4 • Skyline • UE4 • CE3 SDK • Unity 5 • Esenthel Engine 2.0 Marleys Ghost's YouTube Channel • Marleys Ghost's Blog "I used to be alive like you .... then I took an arrow to the head" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davaris Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 #include "engine.h" int main(int argc, char** argv) { Initialize(); RegisterAbstractPath("C:\Users\Davaris\Desktop\MyProject"); Graphics(640,480); AFilter() ; TFilter() ; TWorld world = CreateWorld() ; if (!world) { MessageBoxA(0,"Error","Failed to create world.",0); return Terminate(); } TFramework framework=CreateFramework(); TLayer layer = GetFrameworkLayer(0); TCamera cam=GetLayerCamera(layer); PositionEntity(cam,Vec3(0,0,0)); //Set Lua variable BP L=GetLuaState(); lua_pushobject(L,framework); lua_setglobal(L,"fw"); lua_pop(L,1); // Setup Initial Post Processing FX /* SetGodRays(1); SetHDR(1); SetSSAO(1); SetBloom(1); SetAntialias(1); */ SetStats(2); game.scene.GetFramewerk().GetRenderer().SetReflectionRenderComponents(ENTITY_ALL); game.scene.GetFramewerk().GetRenderer().SetDistanceFogColor(Vec4(0.9f,0.9f,1,0.96f)); game.scene.GetFramewerk().GetRenderer().SetDistanceFogAngle(Vec2(0,10)); game.scene.GetFramewerk().GetRenderer().SetDistanceFog(fog); game.scene.GetFramewerk().GetRenderer().SetNearDOFRange(Vec2(0,5)); game.scene.GetFramewerk().GetRenderer().SetFarDOFRange(Vec2(50,1000)); game.scene.GetFramewerk().GetRenderer().SetAntialias(antialias); game.scene.GetFramewerk().GetRenderer().SetSSAO(ssao); game.scene.GetFramewerk().GetRenderer().SetNearDOF(dof); game.scene.GetFramewerk().GetRenderer().SetFarDOF(dof); game.scene.GetFramewerk().GetRenderer().SetGodRays(godrays); game.scene.GetFramewerk().GetRenderer().SetBloom(bloom); LoadScene("abstract::mytestmap.sbx"); // Setup spectator TBody spectator=CreateBodySphere(); SetBodyMass(spectator,1); SetBodyGravityMode(spectator,0); SetBodyDamping(spectator,1.0); EntityType(spectator,3); SetBodyBuoyancyMode(spectator,0); PositionEntity(spectator,Vec3(0,5,-10)); TVec3 camrotation=Vec3(0); float mx=0; float my=0; float move=0; float strafe=0; HideMouse(); MoveMouse(GraphicsWidth()/2,GraphicsHeight()/2); // MAIN LOOP while (!KeyHit(KEY_ESCAPE)) { mx=Curve(MouseX()-GraphicsWidth()/2,mx,6); my=Curve(MouseY()-GraphicsHeight()/2,my,6); MoveMouse(GraphicsWidth()/2,GraphicsHeight()/2); camrotation.X=camrotation.X+my/10.0; camrotation.Y=camrotation.Y-mx/10.0; RotateEntity(cam,camrotation); move=KeyDown(KEY_W)-KeyDown(KEY_S); strafe=KeyDown(KEY_D)-KeyDown(KEY_A); TVec3 force = Vec3(strafe*10.0,0,move*10.0); force=TFormVector(force,cam,0); AddBodyForce(spectator,force); UpdateAppTime(); UpdateWorld(AppSpeed()) ; PositionEntity(cam,EntityPosition(spectator)); // Update timing and world UpdateFramework(); // Render RenderFramework(); // Send to screen Flip(0) ; } return Terminate(); } I pasted the effects from Gamelib in and removed game.scene.GetFramewerk().GetRenderer(). And got the following errors: error C3861: 'SetReflectionRenderComponents': identifier not found error C2660: 'SetDistanceFogAngle' : function does not take 1 arguments error C2660: 'SetNearDOFRange' : function does not take 1 arguments error C2660: 'SetFarDOFRange' : function does not take 1 arguments Quote Win 7 Pro 64 bit AMD Phenom II X3 720 2.8GHz GeForce 9800 GTX/9800 GTX+ 4 GB RAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marleys Ghost Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 I pasted the effects from Gamelib in and removed well you can't actually do that .. you'd have to use the Framework commands not the gamlib specific calls to functions that use the Framework commands. To set fog and DoF just change the settings in the sbx via the options and atmosphere properties dialogue in the editor. LoadScene() should just pick them up. Quote AMD Bulldozer FX-4 Quad Core 4100 Black Edition 2 x 4GB DDR3 1333Mhz Memory Gigabyte GeForce GTX 550 Ti OC 1024MB GDDR5 Windows 7 Home 64 bit BlitzMax 1.50 • Lua 5.1 • MaxGUI 1.41 • UU3D Pro • MessiahStudio Pro • Silo Pro 3D Coat • ShaderMap Pro • Hexagon 2 • Photoshop, Gimp & Paint.NET LE 2.5/3.4 • Skyline • UE4 • CE3 SDK • Unity 5 • Esenthel Engine 2.0 Marleys Ghost's YouTube Channel • Marleys Ghost's Blog "I used to be alive like you .... then I took an arrow to the head" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardia Posted January 4, 2010 Author Share Posted January 4, 2010 I started to work on gamelib 0.0.16.0. This is getting interesting... Framewerk C++ source has been removed, and LEO (which has Framework C++ classes) has been added I think it will be ready today, as it's not too much to change, when done this way. Actually there shouldn't be anything to change, if LEO's Framework works the same way as the Framewerk C++ did, which is again a good thing, because then GameLib keeps it promise that customers don't need to change their code when the engine changes and they use GameLib. That's the idea of ROI. Quote ■ Ryzen 9 ■ RX 6800M ■ 16GB ■ XF8 ■ Windows 11 ■ ■ Ultra ■ LE 2.5 ■ 3DWS 5.6 ■ Reaper ■ C/C++ ■ C# ■ Fortran 2008 ■ Story ■ ■ Homepage: https://canardia.com ■ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davaris Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 well you can't actually do that .. you'd have to use the Framework commands not the gamlib specific calls to functions that use the Framework commands. To set fog and DoF just change the settings in the sbx via the options and atmosphere properties dialogue in the editor. LoadScene() should just pick them up. At that point it was super late and I had to go to bed. 3 of those functions required two params instead of 1 param, so I wasn't sure if they worked the same way. Looking at it with fresh eyes I can see they are the same functions, except one group takes a vector for the two params. Different ways of doing things is confusing for tired newbies! Quote Win 7 Pro 64 bit AMD Phenom II X3 720 2.8GHz GeForce 9800 GTX/9800 GTX+ 4 GB RAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardia Posted January 9, 2010 Author Share Posted January 9, 2010 Gamelib 0.0.16.0 is now uploaded, and it should work with all kind of old and new and mixed sandbox/editor scenes. One benefit of its scene loader is that it optimizes the world entities a bit by removing unnecessary physics objects which are left behind when using LUA only. I think when you have many lights in the scene it should also bring some performance boost, but at least it's using less memory. Quote ■ Ryzen 9 ■ RX 6800M ■ 16GB ■ XF8 ■ Windows 11 ■ ■ Ultra ■ LE 2.5 ■ 3DWS 5.6 ■ Reaper ■ C/C++ ■ C# ■ Fortran 2008 ■ Story ■ ■ Homepage: https://canardia.com ■ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davaris Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 Thanks for posting this Lumooja. I just tried it out and ran into a show stopper. For some reason it crashes when I move my zombie or when the other zombie touches my character. But for some reason, the zombie I do not control, can follow a waypoint circuit with no problems. It crashes in here: inline void Framework::Update() const { ::leUpdateFramework(); } Also I still get the null framewerk message and there are no shadows for objects, terrain or otherwise. However for some reason my zombies have shadows. Edit: I was wondering if you might be willing to replace those structs in Gamelib with classes? That way people can override some of the functions without disturbing your code. Quote Win 7 Pro 64 bit AMD Phenom II X3 720 2.8GHz GeForce 9800 GTX/9800 GTX+ 4 GB RAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardia Posted January 10, 2010 Author Share Posted January 10, 2010 The demo might need some files to be updated, I haven't tried it for a while, so I need to work on that next. Yeah, I was planning to make gamelib more C++, so the structs with methods will be classes also. Quote ■ Ryzen 9 ■ RX 6800M ■ 16GB ■ XF8 ■ Windows 11 ■ ■ Ultra ■ LE 2.5 ■ 3DWS 5.6 ■ Reaper ■ C/C++ ■ C# ■ Fortran 2008 ■ Story ■ ■ Homepage: https://canardia.com ■ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davaris Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 I got the demo working with my own map and 0.0.15, but something is different in 0.0.16. I'm wondering if it is the changes to the unnecessary physics objects you mentioned? The other issue I noticed was the fire is working now, but the smoke is appearing as squares. Anyway I'll do some more testing and see if I can figure out exactly what is causing it to crash. At the moment I think it does it when I attempt to move and change direction with the mouse, because it works for a few seconds walking and then boom. Quote Win 7 Pro 64 bit AMD Phenom II X3 720 2.8GHz GeForce 9800 GTX/9800 GTX+ 4 GB RAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davaris Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 I just tried it again and found it crashes when the other zombie walks into my zombie. Also if I keep the zombie's head perfectly level, I can walk for a little while before it crashes, but if I start walking while pointing its head up or down, it crashes immediately. Quote Win 7 Pro 64 bit AMD Phenom II X3 720 2.8GHz GeForce 9800 GTX/9800 GTX+ 4 GB RAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardia Posted January 10, 2010 Author Share Posted January 10, 2010 If you comment out this line in the demo code, it doesn't crash when the player collides with something: SetEntityCallback(myapp.zombie1->body,(byte*)EntityCollisionCallback,ENTITYCALLBACK_COLLISION); Quote ■ Ryzen 9 ■ RX 6800M ■ 16GB ■ XF8 ■ Windows 11 ■ ■ Ultra ■ LE 2.5 ■ 3DWS 5.6 ■ Reaper ■ C/C++ ■ C# ■ Fortran 2008 ■ Story ■ ■ Homepage: https://canardia.com ■ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davaris Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 Thanks for that. Quote Win 7 Pro 64 bit AMD Phenom II X3 720 2.8GHz GeForce 9800 GTX/9800 GTX+ 4 GB RAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davaris Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 I just checked the fire barrel again and it was working like I said above with the squares instead of smoke *in a map I made before yesterdays update*. However it isn't working in a test map I made today. The light is working, but there are no flames, heat haze or smoke. I wonder if it is just a problem with its script? Because the monster truck kicks up dust properly when it moves. EDIT: Oh wait a sec, it works in the editor just fine so there must be another reason. Quote Win 7 Pro 64 bit AMD Phenom II X3 720 2.8GHz GeForce 9800 GTX/9800 GTX+ 4 GB RAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davaris Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 I had another look at the shadows issue and it is only the terrain objects that are missing shadows. All other objects have shadows. I also tested the monster truck again and it is not kicking up dust in the editor or in gamelib. Quote Win 7 Pro 64 bit AMD Phenom II X3 720 2.8GHz GeForce 9800 GTX/9800 GTX+ 4 GB RAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardia Posted January 11, 2010 Author Share Posted January 11, 2010 You need to do: SetVegetationShadowMode(1); in your code. Editor has by default the vegation shadow mode: "sometimes" enabled, so you need to enable vegetation shadows in your code. You could also change the vegetation shadow mode in Editor to: "always", but that's not a good idea I think, because then you can't turn the shadows on/off by code. Quote ■ Ryzen 9 ■ RX 6800M ■ 16GB ■ XF8 ■ Windows 11 ■ ■ Ultra ■ LE 2.5 ■ 3DWS 5.6 ■ Reaper ■ C/C++ ■ C# ■ Fortran 2008 ■ Story ■ ■ Homepage: https://canardia.com ■ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davaris Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 You need to do: SetVegetationShadowMode(1); in your code. Editor has by default the vegation shadow mode: "sometimes" enabled, so you need to enable vegetation shadows in your code. You could also change the vegetation shadow mode in Editor to: "always", but that's not a good idea I think, because then you can't turn the shadows on/off by code. Thanks! I also noticed the windmill fan, isn't turning in the editor or gamelib. Does that mean the script is broken? Or perhaps there is something I need to turn on, to get Lua to update? If that is the case, it would explain why the fire barrel doen't produce fire. Quote Win 7 Pro 64 bit AMD Phenom II X3 720 2.8GHz GeForce 9800 GTX/9800 GTX+ 4 GB RAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canardia Posted January 11, 2010 Author Share Posted January 11, 2010 The windmill is using the old Lua script, I have converted mine to the new Lua and it works in both Editor and GameLib. Quote ■ Ryzen 9 ■ RX 6800M ■ 16GB ■ XF8 ■ Windows 11 ■ ■ Ultra ■ LE 2.5 ■ 3DWS 5.6 ■ Reaper ■ C/C++ ■ C# ■ Fortran 2008 ■ Story ■ ■ Homepage: https://canardia.com ■ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marleys Ghost Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 Is it still: game.scene.Update(); game.MouseLook(game.scene.cam); To get mouse look working? Quote AMD Bulldozer FX-4 Quad Core 4100 Black Edition 2 x 4GB DDR3 1333Mhz Memory Gigabyte GeForce GTX 550 Ti OC 1024MB GDDR5 Windows 7 Home 64 bit BlitzMax 1.50 • Lua 5.1 • MaxGUI 1.41 • UU3D Pro • MessiahStudio Pro • Silo Pro 3D Coat • ShaderMap Pro • Hexagon 2 • Photoshop, Gimp & Paint.NET LE 2.5/3.4 • Skyline • UE4 • CE3 SDK • Unity 5 • Esenthel Engine 2.0 Marleys Ghost's YouTube Channel • Marleys Ghost's Blog "I used to be alive like you .... then I took an arrow to the head" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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