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    LE3 Release date when..?

    in General Discussion

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    NA, making $1k per month is not that usual. So far I have 3 games in the markets (all Android, iPhone and WP7) and only one makes money. Interesting enough I make about $300 per month with ads alone (for the free version).

     

    Don't get me wrong, I would not buy LE3 for the price of Unity.

    LE3 Release date when..?

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    Josh, you're absolutely right. Mobile dev is the way to go. I make about $1000 per month with a simple Battleship game (I can provide the links and stats if anyone is interested) and this is a simple 2d game. It took me about 2 months to code it. If you want to make money, go mobile. Especially as a lone wulf or with a small team you can still do amazing things. That reminds me on the good old days of the C64...

    (Compare that with the development time for a PC game!)

     

    LE3 will be an instant buy for me, no matter which price.

     

    If you want to make AAA games for PC, you can already use LE2. Just port it to LE3 when it's finished.

     

    Just one question. Will there be a Monkey interface? Will LE3 have sockets?

    LE2 vs LE3

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    I just have a question. Will there be something like Framewerk in LE3? Or to come to my point: In LE2 it seems tricky to me to apply something basic like fog (SetDistanceFog in Framewerk)...

    Advanced Terrain

    in Suggestion Box

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    Voxel based terrains would be awesome. Especially if they allow dynamic changes like digging into it. I've rarely seen something like this in games yet - obviously for good reasons I guess...

    Multiplayer/Latency + Physics + Collisions

    in Programming

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    Whenever a client is authoritative there is going to be cheating so I would avoid it at all cost. For example, mixed mode could easily be cheated by modifying the client to never send the "hit" message.

     

    That wouldn't be a problem as client B would send such a message. So for the case that only one of the two involved clients send such a message the server would look into this issue. :rolleyes:

     

    You can solve it quite easily by not using physics and just do simplified calculations by "hand" (which several modern MMO's such as WoW, Lord of the Rings Online and EVE Online seem to do) but Lumooja's solution is of course far more elegant ;)

     

    Thanks. Yes that would be doable but as I use submarines it would be nice to have some kind of realistic physics especially if it comes to collisions. ;)

    Multiplayer/Latency + Physics + Collisions

    in Programming

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    So I set a body force for the client by getting the body velocity from the server? Sounds a bit strange to me as you can't simply set a velocity as force. This won't help for lagging situations as well as the client has to immediately react on controls and can't wait for the server which would double the latency (client sends its control command to the server and the server replies with a force to act).

    Multiplayer/Latency + Physics + Collisions

    in Programming

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    Hi all,

     

    I've thought about multiplayer and physics. I see that this must be somehow synchronized so that both server and clients have the same results. The way I see it there are several ways to do it:

     

    1) Clients do all physics

     

    That's the easy case where every client does its own physics calculation and send the results (position etc.) to the server which spreads it to the other clients.

     

    Problem: Cheating is easy as the server doesn't control it all.

     

    2) Server does all physics

     

    The Server calculates the whole world with all bodies and send the results to the clients.

     

    Problem: There is obviously the problem that this leads to massive lags at the clients side and jittering etc. as we need some interpolation on the clients side. The other problem is the huge calculation power for the server.

     

    3) Mixed mode

     

    This seems to me the only practicable way to do it. Every client calculates its own physics and send the results (forces, position, etc) to the server. As the server should NOT calculate unnecessary stuff it should just do some rough calculation to see if the client is still within its correct boundaries. So there would be some kind of trust as long as there are not big jumps, unrealistic forces and so on (cheating attempts).

     

    Another issue would be the stuff like bullets. When one clients fire at another one and hits it, client A (the attacker) should send a "hit message" to the server. Again I would like to avoid all not necessary calculations on the server side so one idea would be to wait for client B to send this "hit message" as well. That way cheating would be unlikely as a hit is only recorded when both clients send its message. All the collision stuff would be done locally.

     

    I'd like to discuss this a bit so do you see any flaws with this concept? How would you handle it? The main problem is latency here and it should be a smooth gameplay even with 100-200 ms latency so interpolation is essential!

     

    Thanks!

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