[[Linux, Steam] GTK controls renders wrong]

Hmm, let me see. Ubuntu has: Linux Kernel, GNU tools and X. Just like Debian and just about every other current Linux distro out there. Debian uses sysvinit and Ubuntu uses upstart while systemd is the future for both and already the standard for everything else. Ubuntu will probably be there a bit faster even than Debian.

 

In essence, Debian is mostly just older packages for their stable releases and developers like the features the get by having newer a newer libc and other things.

 

What if I told you that if - at least in the case of games on Steam - something runs on SteamOS it is already running on Ubuntu more than it is on Debian because of the Steam-runtime which is build with Ubuntu 12.04 libs with some of them updated here and there?

 

I really, really dislike people coming in with this "let me tell you what's what" attitude and proclaiming a falsehood in practically every second sentence while doing so, potentially irritating and alienating Linux newbies and interested outsiders.

 

Don't get me wrong, i'd like to see Leadwerks officially supported on SteamOS in the future. But prioritizing it over the single largest Linux distro (according to Steam's own stats) that people are actually using today is simply a pants-on-head crazy idea.

 

the very fact that i named steamos as target is steam-runtime which will be very easy to replicate in future sandboxed applications. if it runs trough steam on steamos. even now, without sandoboxing any distro could simply modify run.sh from steam and have perfect compatibility. goal achieved in 2 min

 

what you're mistaking here is the fact you're proclaiming i'm proposing default workstation target, which i am not. i'm proposing test target for bug reporting. if it works on setup like this there won't be "ubuntu x.y morning version supported only", but rather "linux supported". sometimes i just hate ubuntu users and their inflexibility to understand

 

let's see. they deviate in desktop notifications, they deviate in how menu is handled, in future they'll move to Mir, rest to wayland, systemd support is not comming until 16. ubuntu runs its own unique DE which doesn't really work like others (well, so isn't gnome in that aspect, so this is a bit moot), shall i go on?

[[Linux, Steam] GTK controls renders wrong]

SteamOS is not a Workstation operating system, so why would anyone target the editor at JUST that? heck, it even runs Steam in another X session that doesn't really do windowing.

It might be worthwhile adding it in the future because of Leadwerks being on Steam but now Ubuntu is the sane choice, though I agree it could be a heck of a lot more flexible in regards to running on anything that shares Ubuntu's base and repos.

 

maybe because it features standard libraries from debian wheezy. smaller the target, better the adaptation. if you target ubuntu which deviates from others in every aspect... it's hard to adapt.

 

ubuntu is to other linux world kind of like android is. you can make android out of linux distro, but no matter how hard you try, you can't make linux distro out of android

 

also: if it runs on steamos and not on ubuntu, there is 100% chance ubuntu is the culprit

 

update: "heck of a lot more flexible in regards to running on anything that shares Ubuntu's base and repos" you could replace this with linux. there is 0 needs for singular base and repos if you know the stable target

[[Linux, Steam] GTK controls renders wrong]

Ubuntu 14.04 64-bit is the only supported Linux-based OS at this time. Unless someone can confirm the problem occurs on Ubuntu 14.04 64-bit, it won't be investigated.

 

just my 2 cents. it would probably be much better if SteamOS was the target. simpler target, longer life span, less deviation from other Linux ecosystem, much better in following standards. it would also make it MUCH simpler target to adapt with other distros

[[Linux, Steam] GTK controls renders wrong]

So where do you draw the line?

 

Must it be a freshly installed Ubuntu 14.04? Or am I allowed to install other software? What about other desktops? or other themes? Mint-x for instance is also available for Unity

 

 

I've said it before and I'll say it again discriminating against Ubuntu derivatives makes as much sense as rejecting bugs from windows users who chose Classic over Aero ( or vice versa )

 

you can solve this problem by changing steam command for leadwerks and use

 

GTK2_RC_FILES=/path/to/your/theme/gtkrc application-command

 

or simply

 

GTK2_RC_FILES=/path/to/your/theme/gtkrc %command%

 

this way you can at least use preferred theme in the rest of the system. still, demanding to test against everything is a bit large request. i can't even imagine this magnitude. it's more than reasonable for developer to pick his supported flavor and then let users find workarounds. then, if problem is caused by distro, it is fixed by community, if it is caused by software, it is fixed by software. sometimes, things can also work by pure accident and break as soon as that accident is not present anymore

 

i personally use fedora and actually hate ubuntu anything and as such find it really strange to see linux user asking for his 10% of linux only like you do but, one thing that i did find is that i have way less problems on my unsupported distro than most ubuntu users on their so called supported with anything non-FOSS.

[other distros.]

ldd /path/to/program

 

To find all dependencies. Everything that is listed as `not found.' is missing.

 

Then use your package manager to find packages that provide the missing dependencies. For yum it would be

yum whatprovides */libk5crypto.so.3

 

Read the man page of your package manager to see how it provides this kind of functionality.

And note that the library libk5crypto.so.3 is a example library and not needed by Leadwerks.

 

that works on yum based distros like fedora, centos, rhel... and it is easy to automate if you use script like this. script to automate deps installing on yum is something like this

 

also, you might want to avoid whatprovides and use resolvedep instead. whatprovides will enumerate all package versions, resolvedep will only name the relevant one

 

#!/bin/sh
if [ ! -f "$1" ]; then
   echo "Usage: installdeps.sh EXECUTABLE_NAME [--install]"
   exit
fi

INSTALL=0
[ "$2" = "--install" ] && INSTALL=1

get_rpmname() {
   declare -i NUM
   let NUM=$#-1
   eval PARM=\$$NUM
   echo ${PARM//*:/""}
}

get_dependancy() {
   NAME=`basename $1`
   echo $NAME
}

echo "Parsing: "$1
DEPS=`ldd "$1"`
OLDIFS=$IFS
IFS=$'\n'
for line in $DEPS; do
   OIFS=$IFS
   IFS=$' \t'
   DEP=`get_dependancy $line`
   RPMNAME=`yum resolvedep */$DEP 2>&1`
   TEST=${RPMNAME//"Error:"/""}
   if [ ! "$RPMNAME" = "$TEST" ]; then
       echo "No package found for: "$DEP
   else
       IFS=$' \t\n'
       echo "Depends on: ["$DEP"] <= "`get_rpmname $RPMNAME`
       IFS=$' \t'
       [ $INSTALL = 1 ] && yum install `get_rpmname $RPMNAME`
   fi
   IFS=$OIFS
done
IFS=$OLDIFS

 

more or less all package managers have same functions, just different command/parameters and error checking.

[Experimental build available for Linux on beta branch on Steam]

It downloaded fast so I tried starting it up: "Failed to start game (missing executable)." with this link attached: https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=8676-EFLX-7453&l=english

 

So that obviously puts a dampener on my testing, I'll try from the live usb later but I doubt I can fit steam on there

 

happened same to me, then i realized i forgot to enable beta branch. another download around 14mb and it worked. fedora 19 x86_64. starts normal here, about 10sec. i7, nvidia 750 430.24, 16GB. only thing is that splash screen is white